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- Usenet Mac Digest Sunday, January 31, 1988 Volume 4 : Issue 17
-
- Today's Topics:
- MacWorld Expo Report 2 (longer)
- caveat to PBHCreate users
- Re: Setting cursor position and mouse speed.
- Tempo vs. Quickkey
- Something that does fast expansion of text abbreviations?
- tape backup units
- Multifinder programming problem
- Help for the nearly blind
- Gemstone
- Where to get FORTH for macintosh
- Re: PD FORTH for the MAC?
- Re: Mac <--> UNIX file sharing needed
- Re: of mice and macs
- Anyone know how to make A/UX recognize tape drive?
- here's a MacLanding enter key patch
- Excel vs Font/DA Juggler
- Re: tcsh in AUX
- Re: Suitcase versus Font/DA Juggler
- Appletalk Conference/BBS program sources
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro - Program Management Office)
- Subject: MacWorld Expo Report 2 (longer)
- Date: 28 Jan 88 00:03:37 GMT
- Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View
-
-
- Macworld Expo 1988 - Review and Commentary
- by Bill Petro
-
- CONTENTS:
- The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
- Speakers
- John Sculley
- Gary Tooker
- Seminars
- Products
- FullWrite Professional
- Wingz
- VideoWorks II
- TOPS
- Apple printers
- WordPerfect
- Interleaf
- MacMoney
- MacNET
-
-
- THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY
-
- The Ugly part of the 1988 MacWorld Expo was that the keynote speech and
- opening address was over booked in a major way. The largest seminar
- room that was used for the keynote speakers seats 2,000 people. The
- Expo was expecting 40,000 people. Not all of them had paid the $40 to
- get into the seminars. Many had paid only $15 that entitled them to
- only the exhibits. Nevertheless, even though I arrived before the 9:00
- am speech I was not admitted in. I had friends that arrived at 8:30 am
- who were not there early enough either. For the extra $25, there were
- thousands of disappointed show goers. The PA system expressed regret,
- and voiced the ruling of the Fire Marshall, but there were no other
- seminars for another hour, and if you did not get to those early, you
- were locked out of those. The management did see fit to videotape the
- keynote address and show it a number of times later in the show, but
- that was either at the end of the day, or the beginning of the next, and
- was of little consequence. Additionally, it covered only thirty minutes
- of the address, and skipped the big Apple/DEC announcement. The
- assembled masses were not assuaged.
-
- The Bad part came when it was learned that Ann Arbor Software still does
- not have their FullWrite Professional word processing program ready.
- They were featuring their product last year at the Expo and promised
- shipment by April. Following that, it kept slipping by a month. It is
- now considered one of the premier vaporware word processors. I have a
- number of friends who have sent in their money and even though they were
- told their credit cards would not be charged until ship date, discovered
- that they have been charged but still do not have the product. At the
- show, they said they are shipping a "pre-release" or "gamma" version to
- those who have already ordered. Nevertheless, this is rather an
- embarrassment for the company and it has not helped their credibility.
- They were giving our copies of their "Demo" version, which did not allow
- correct printing, and was missing the spell checker and thesaurus.
- However, already there are reports of bugs in the demo on both MacPlus
- and Mac II. I must admit that
-
- The Good part was the eagerly expected Wingz booth sponsored by
- Innovative Software of Lenexa, Kansas. It was rumored in MacWeek
- magazine that this would be the one to see and shortly after the exhibit
- doors opened at 11:00 am Friday, I fairly ran to their booth. I was
- greeted by a large enclosed booth and a 30 minute line! The attendants
- were dressed up like space folk from the TV series "V". The line was
- worth the wait, the demo was shades of Disneyland. There was a rather
- "Captain EO" feel to it as you stepped into the booth and prepared for
- your ride into the future. There was a videotaped 9 minute tour by
- Leonard Nimoy in a black turtle-neck sweater and a stoic visage. Who
- better to present computer software than Mr. Spock of Star Trek? The
- product, which was running on a color Macintosh II, is in a word a super
- spreadsheet program. It has a number of things, however, that go beyond
- a spreadsheet. It allows for text and graphics in the speadsheet,
- showing possibilities in the desktop presentation market. There is a
- limited text editor supporting fonts, and linked 3-D (color) graphics.
- If you change a figure, the linked graphic will change as well. It is
- supposed to be 30% faster than Excel and can support a truly enormous
- amount of data, a worksheet of over a billion cells . The worksheet
- could be used as a database to sort, search, and query data. At their
- Hospitality Suite in a nearby P hotel I learned that they are working on
- versions for other platforms, including the Sun and Apollo. The
- Macintosh version will be in Beta in March perhaps and released in May.
- There was no information given about price. SmartWare developed the
- package, and Innovative is publishing it. The publisher is currently
- undergoing a merger with another company and this might complicate the
- schedule.
-
- SPEAKERS
-
- John Sculley
-
- The 30 minute videotape of the presentation by the president of Apple
- stressed his vision for a modern Renaissance. He believes that it
- hinges on three core technologies - hypermedia, simulation, and
- artificial intelligence. He stressed the adventure of the future and
- the need to "set a new course". This vision is to "elevate the
- individual and not subservience to institutions". This is to be an
- adventure of "passion and romance not just progress and profits". Toward
- the end of his presentation, he featured a 5 minute video of the
- "Knowledge Navigator" of the year 2010, a notebook-sized color
- "Macintosh", with an AI "agent" interface, phone capabilities, graphics,
- etc. It was delightful, but Sculley warned that it was not scheduled to
- ship this year. He sent the assembled masses out "as enthusiasts and
- evangelists we can make a difference in this new odyssey", a clear link
- to his latest book.
-
- I have heard Sculley speak before. Last year he suggested that Apple
- was going to change the world. I have heard this in the religious
- realm, but found it somewhat incongruous for a computer product. This
- year he was more polished, smoother. I could not escape the impression
- though that what I was hearing was somewhere between a campaign from a
- political candidate, and a challenge from a preacher. His delivery was
- carefully paced and articulate, almost too smooth. It was if anything
- overwritten. It struck me like a candidate without a personality. His
- spoke of a vision but it was like a sermon without a soul, without
- spirit. Although his challenge was appealing, I did not feel the
- passion of the man, only a well tuned speech. At least Jean-Louis
- Gassee rights his own jokes!
-
- Gary Tooker
-
- The Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of
- Motorola, Inc. gave a 20 minute presentation Saturday morning. This
- $6,000,000,000 company who supplies the CPU for the Macintosh has
- 95,000. Tooker told how sixty years ago Paul Galvin developed a radio
- to put in a car, a Victorola in a motorcar, and Motorola was born. Later
- the company introduced the walkie-talkie in the world war. It pioneered
- CMOS for pagers and the rest, as they say, is history. The CPU for the
- Macintosh is only one of 50,000 products that Motorola sells. He spoke
- briefly of the 68030, and mentioned in passing the 68040. He stated
- Motorola's continued commitment to the industry, and indeed, Motorola
- had one of the larger and more centrally located exhibits on the main
- floor.
-
- SEMINARS
-
- There was a decided "marketing" feel to many of the seminars this year,
- to a much greater extent than ever before at the MacWorld Expo. One of
- the first seminars was "The Software Entrepreneurs' Roundtable". Marc
- Canter, one of the developers of the early MusicWorks and now the later
- VideoWorks and VideoWorks II was one of the more vocal panel members, as
- ever. He is currently writing the end column for Macintosh Today. Two
- years ago when I met him at the MacWorld Expo, he was promoting
- VideoWorks and wearing an Aloha shirt. This year, he was wearing a
- conservative gray suit. He himself admitted that the Macintosh world is
- changing and that he cannot afford to do anything that would hinder his
- marketing his product, even if that should influence his attire.
-
- There were the usual number of "Getting Started In ..." seminars,
- covering word processing, relational databases, desktop publishing and
- desktop presentations, as well as some in the new frontiers of CD ROM,
- color graphics, and artificial intelligence. There were also the
- seminars for the more sophisticated users in programming as well as some
- special interest groups like education, medicine, and law. There were a
- number of seminars on desktop communications, or connectivity to other
- machines, including mainframes. There was a special seminar on
- connectivity to IBM's and a special one on connecting to the DEC world.
- Perhaps the most interesting and entertaining seminars were with the
- Macintosh gods, Scott Watson, developer of Red Ryder telecommunication
- program, Don Brown of CE Software, and the outspoken and occasionally
- controversial Andy Hertzfeld who was one of the original Macintosh
- creators and author of Thunderscan, Switcher, and Servant (the precursor
- and partial inspiration to MultiFinder).
-
- The seminar "Macintosh - Wizard of '88" was chaired by David Bunnell,
- Editor-in-Chief of MacWorld Magazine, the host of the Expo. His
- comments were concerned mostly with Macintosh congratulations, back
- patting, and HyperCard hyping. His comments occasionally sounded like
- the cheering section of auto-aggrandizement. Philippe Kahn, president
- of Borland International publishers stressed "more power plus more ease
- of connectivity for data and databases without compromise of
- throughput". Paul Brainerd, president of Aldus Corp, promised "more
- ease of use" for Pagemaker. Gordon Eubanks, president of Symantec Corp,
- encompassing Living VideoText (MORE) and Think Technologies (Lightspeed
- C and Pascal) called the Macintosh the "quintessential personal computer
- of the 80's". He spoke of three priorities. "Interoperable applications
- on a common network with the highest common denominator, would offer the
- full advantage of Macintosh group productivity." "The Zen of networking
- - includes all of the personal computing ease of installation and
- maintenance on a Macintosh." "System software would provide the best
- hardware and software integration."
-
- The most heavily attended seminars were the ones at the end of each day
- of the Expo presented by Bill Atkinson, Apple Fellow and creator of
- HyperCard, the flagship of Apple's latest evangelical campaign. After
- some technical difficulties with the projector on Friday, Bill wowed the
- assembled masses with a brief but thorough journey through the various
- levels of HyperCard's functionality. It is billed as an "erector set"
- though it is occasionally marketed as everything from a powerful
- relational database to the neatest thing since sliced bread. There is no
- doubt that this product is pretty impressive, and its potential is yet
- to be realized, seeming at times to be a solution in search of a
- problem. A number of interesting applications were suggested, from
- education to entertainment. It was interesting to see the second
- generation of Apple programmers, as Bill's little girl appeared and he
- showed the crowd some of the programs he had put together for her on
- HyperCard. Bill at least was still wearing an Aloha shirt.
-
- PRODUCTS
-
- The people who come to the MacWorld Expo are people who regularly spend
- money buying Macintosh hardware and software, and sometimes a lot of
- money. This last year saw the introduction of the Macintosh II, the
- "open Mac", the "high-end Mac". And with it, this year there were a
- number of new, big ticket products. There was a wide selection of
- monitors, and an emphasis on color. Graphics, and color graphics were
- big, and VideoWorks had an MTV-esque booth with sound and beautiful
- animation on a big color screen. SuperMac had a large and popular
- booth, having recently merged with Levco. They were selling
- accelerators and monitors. Add-in cards of all kinds were available all
- over the main exhibit floor, which took at least two days to get around.
- Plotters and scanners and high-end CAD programs abounded.
-
- There was a bit more hucksterism this year than in years past. In the
- past, you might have seen an magician used to get attention, this year
- there was much more. This year, for example, the "MacInTax" people had
- a slick young card shark right out of "Guys and Dolls". He as smooth,
- entertaining, and effective. TOPS, formerly Centram West, now a
- subsidiary of Sun Microsystems, had a guy and gal doing a song and dance
- take-off of "Entertainment Tonight" and were roping them in. They
- presented the power of TOPS as they gave out top hats, explaining that
- it not only networked Macintoshes, but PC's and Sun's. The sellers of
- "Trapeze" were regularly holding drawings for lobster dinner for two,
- Federal Expressed in from Legal Seafood of Boston. I've eaten there and
- it was almost worth standing through the demo for a chance to win! HP
- had a drawing for a LazerJet printer, indeed there was even a drawing
- from Apple. Jasmine Technologies, the hard disk people, had a laser
- light show on the ceiling.
-
- Both Apple and Claris, the recent software spin-off from Apple had their
- own, prominently situated booths. Apple was showing off its new line of
- three laser printers and its finally available ImageWriter LQ (Letter
- Quality). The last one is the only one that will currently support
- color, using a rainbow ribbon, and is rather impressive, especially
- considering that it does not share the stratospheric price tag of the
- new laser printers.
-
- Some of the larger Macintosh user groups were represented, including
- BMUG (Berkeley), Boston Computer Society, and the Association of Apple
- 32 Users (A32, Silicon Valley). The were selling their newsletters and
- public domain software from their considerable libraries.
-
- Desktop publishing was big again this year. Claris is introducing an
- update to the old faithful MacWrite that has a spelling checker.
- FullWrite Professional from Ann Arbor Software will do everything but
- wash your dishes when it is finally available. It seems like a high
- powered automobile that will pass anything but a gas station, the
- current "gamma" version will do everything but work without bombing or
- complaining about memory restrictions. It was prominently mentioned in
- the seminar "Why Use Vaporware (And Other Sleazy Marketing
- Techniques)?". WordPerfect, coming over from the PC world is taking a
- different approach. It is not ready for release yet, but is available
- to the public as "Betaware". The customer can buy it for $99 now,
- knowing it is not perfect, and then get the final version along with the
- completed documentation later for free, rather than for the proposed
- list price of $395. At the very high end of the desktop publishing
- arena, indeed in the computer aided publishing market, is Interleaf from
- Cambridge, MA. This product is available on workstation platforms such
- as Sun at a much higher price. I was told the Sun could act as file
- server for the Macintosh II. Nevertheless, the $2495 price tag for this
- product on the Macintosh II put it at the nose-bleed elevation for most
- users at the Expo. The Interleaf booth was showing a video of "The
- Computer Show" featuring a demo of the product. This is a high-end
- product for the Macintosh world, allowing both graphics, word
- processing, and page layout for very large and complex documents. The
- workers at the booth were trying to explain what power that the high
- price tag bought, though in vain at times. This product will work on
- nothing less than a Macintosh II with 5 to 8 megs of memory and a 40 to
- 80 megabyte hard disk, and would appeal less to the current installed
- base of Macintosh Plus users and more to the corporate and sophisticated
- publishing shop buyers.
-
- MacMoney, from Survivor Software was represented by its developers, the
- Farmers. It originally came out as Home Accountant under another
- publisher years ago, but is now under the control of Survivor Software
- Ltd in Inglewood, CA. It is a very nice home or small business
- accounting package with a relatively easy interface. They were were
- giving a prevue of version 3.0, which will provide running balances in
- the registers, the long awaited sort preference for registers (date,
- number, etc.), delete and voiding functions, credit card reconciliation,
- and variable tabs in report generation.
-
- MacNET, a new online service that exploits the Macintosh interface
- rather than using the command line interface of most services, debuted
- at the Expo. It is very much like the current AppleLink, which only
- select developers and dealers have access to. It provides stick
- information, e-mail and Macintosh product support. At a connect rate of
- $4/hour, it weighs in as less expensive than either CompuServe or GEnie.
- The debut was marred by the inexperience of the booth workers. Three of
- them could not tell me what protocols MacNET supported. Admittedly, it
- is a new service, and some of the employees had only hours of experience
- with the company.
-
- CONCLUSION
-
- The Macintosh market seems to have evolved, or at least changed. The
- developer of "TopDesk", a powerful collection of desk accessories from
- Berkeley, refreshingly wore an unadorned sweatshirt. It was curious
- though to see young people wearing power suits and ties who probably do
- not remember what group Paul McCartney sang with before "Wings".
- {cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,seismo,ucbvax}!sun!warp!rock Bill Petro
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: spud@metasoft.UUCP (David Hayes)
- Subject: caveat to PBHCreate users
- Date: 27 Jan 88 15:52:53 GMT
- Organization: Meta Software Corporation, Cambridge MA
-
- After much thrashing i have found an error in IM 4 that led me to
- incorrectly call PBHCreate.
-
- IM 4 lists the parameters for PBHCreate as:
- ioCompletion
- ioResult
- ioNamePtr
- ioVRefNum
- ioDirID
-
- when i created files using these parameters, my files showed
- up on the desktop but they were not seen by Mockwrite or
- the LSC editor or even my application. only when i included
- the parameter ioFVersNum (set to 0) did my files become
- visible to the above editors.
-
- i hope this saves someone some time so that i will not have thrashed in
- vain.
-
- spud@metasoft.UUCP
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: alan@metasoft.UUCP (Alan Epstein)
- Subject: Re: Setting cursor position and mouse speed.
- Date: 27 Jan 88 22:37:33 GMT
- Organization: Meta Software Corporation, Cambridge MA
-
- In article <7272@apple.UUCP>, dgold@apple.UUCP (David Goldsmith) writes:
- > Changing the mouse position directly is an operation we do not support.
-
- we are aware that apple does not support move movements. the question is
- why not? i'm not ashamed to admit that we 'broke the rules' in
- implementing PutMouse(), because we expected the interface to support us
- in this. fortunately since the 512K it has NOT broken.
-
- i'd like you to consider implementing the PutMouse() Trap and let us
- criminals go free.
-
- -alan@metasoft.uucp
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: fons@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu
- Subject: Tempo vs. Quickkey
- Date: 27 Jan 88 05:14:00 GMT
-
-
-
- A friend of mine is thinking of getting some software for his upcoming
- birthday and requested me to post a question for him on the net. He
- just bought a Mac II a while ago with the extended keyboard and he wants
- to purchase a program that will let him assign macros to these keys. He
- has heard of two programs Tempo and Quickkeys (I think I have the names
- right). Could anyone with comments mail me them so I can pass them on.
- Thanks in advance.
-
- U.S Mail: Paul Fons
- Univerity of Illinois at Urbana Champaign
- Coordinated Science Laboratory
- 1101 W. Springfield
- Urbana, Illinois 61801 (207)-333-7080
- --
- Internet: Fons@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu or Fons@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu
- Bitnet: Fons@uiucvmd
- CSnet: Fons%vmd@uiuc.csnet Fons%uxe@uiuc.csnet
- UUCP: [ihnp4,uunet]!uiucuxc!fons@vmd [ihnp4,uunet]!uiucuxc!uiucuxe!fons
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: derek@gucis.oz (Derek Austin)
- Subject: Something that does fast expansion of text abbreviations?
- Date: 25 Jan 88 07:53:44 GMT
- Organization: The Byte Centre, 49 Park Rd., Milton, 4064. AUSTRALIA.
-
- In the dim dark world that was the pre-megabyte mac, there was a nifty
- DA that let you store a table of abbreviations and that DA would then
- expand them for you, wherever you were. This sort of thing was useful in
- MacWrite, for example, which doesn't have any sort of glossary facility.
-
- Now with the coming of the SEs etc, this DA no longer worked (I can't
- remember its name).
-
- Does anyone know of either a similar DA or a word processor that will
- let you type in an abbreviation that will be automatically expanded as
- soon as you type white space? OR, a word processor that does the same?
- OR, a word processor that had a glossary facility similar to the old
- Microsoft Word 1.05 where you typed one keystroke after the abbreviation
- to expand it?
-
- I need this for an application where typing speed is of the essence. It
- must run on a Macintosh SE.
-
-
- Any help would be very appreciated.
-
- Thanks,
-
- derek
- --
- Derek Austin ACSnet: derek@gucis.oz
- The Byte Centre ARPA: derek%gucis.oz@seismo.css.gov
- 49 Park Road CSNET: derek@gucis.oz
- Milton 4064 JANET: gucis.oz!derek@ukc
- Australia PHONE: +61 7 369 4099
- UUCP: {seismo,hplabs,mcvax,ukc,nttlab}!munnari!gucis.oz!derek
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: mailnews@allegra.UUCP (Henry Kautz's mailnews program)
- Subject: tape backup units
- Date: 28 Jan 88 14:34:59 GMT
- Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill
-
- Does anyone have any personal experience with tape backup units? In
- particular, how fast does your unit *really* transfer data? Tecmar is
- *claiming* in their ads to have a unit which backs up at 3 MB @ minute,
- using Apple-compatible cassettes. Any experience? Mail to me, and if
- there are any responses, I'll summarize to the net.
- --
- ---- Henry Kautz
- :uucp: allegra!kautz
- :arpa: or :csnet: kautz@allegra.att.com
- :old style csnet: kautz%allegra@btl.csnet
- :mail: AT&T Bell Laboratories
- Room 3C-402A
- 600 Mountain Ave.
- Murray Hill, N.J. 07974
- :office phone: (201) 582-2815
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: neil@dsl.cis.upenn.edu (Neil Radisch)
- Subject: Multifinder programming problem
- Date: 28 Jan 88 15:46:44 GMT
- Organization: University of Pennsylvania
-
- I've written an application that works fine under Multifinder except I
- can only switch it out by using the 'apple' menu. The program does not
- respond to a click on the little icon in the upper right hand corner.
- Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong .....or better yet if you have
- tech notes on multifinder I would appreciate a copy (so when are we
- gonna get Inside Mac Vol 5?). Please email all responses
-
- thank you
- --
- |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
- | "Better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove |
- | all doubt" --- Abraham Lincoln |
- | |
- | neil@dsl.cis.upenn.edu.UUCP |
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-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: moore@svax.cs.cornell.edu (Doug Moore)
- Subject: Help for the nearly blind
- Date: 28 Jan 88 18:12:44 GMT
- Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY
-
- I finally brought my parents into the computer age. My dad has taken to
- it fine, but my mom can't see well enough to use it. I'm looking for
- suggestions on how to make the Mac useful for her too.
-
- I know of two software possibilities. I have a copy of the "Magnify" DA
- by Scott Gillespie of Reed College, which provides a fixed size, movable
- window which displays a 3x (I think) magnification of a circular area.
- You click in the window, the cursor becomes a circle, and as you drag
- the circle around, the part of the screen covered by the circle is
- magnified. Its shortcomings are its awkward shape and inflexibility,
- but it's the best I have right now.
-
- I also have a copy of the "Stepping out" demo. I don't know if the
- complete version has the flexibility I want or not. The demo only
- allows the screen to be divided into left and right halves, with 4x
- magnification on the right half. At the very least, an option to allow
- division into top and bottom halves instead would make text editing
- easier, I think.
-
- Has anyone come up with a good solution for this problem? I like a DA
- solution, because the ability to move quickly from blind user's mode to
- normal mode is important. If you have suggestions, please mail them to
- me. If I get any interesting responses, I will summarize to the net in
- a couple of weeks.
- --
- Doug Moore
- moore@svax.cs.cornell.edu
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: blaise@arthur.UUCP (Frank Blaise Modruson)
- Subject: Gemstone
- Date: 28 Jan 88 17:07:44 GMT
- Organization: Arthur Andersen TSO-Chicago
-
- what do you think of this product? How have you used it?
-
- Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. --->fbm>
-
- My UUCP address is: ...oddjob!arthur!blaise from internet:
- arthur!blaise@ODDJOB.UCHICAGO.EDU my phone is: (312) 507-2566 (I can
- call you back)
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: mcli@ur-tut.UUCP (Maurice Ling)
- Subject: Where to get FORTH for macintosh
- Date: 29 Jan 88 02:43:01 GMT
- Organization: Univ. of Rochester Computing Center
-
- Hello,
-
- I'm interested in getting the FORTH programming language for Macintosh.
- Could someone give me some pointers on where to get it? Preferably
- Public Domain or Shareware.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Maurice
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: ns@CAT.CMU.EDU (Nicholas Spies)
- Subject: Re: PD FORTH for the MAC?
- Date: 29 Jan 88 03:06:44 GMT
- Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI
-
- In article <20255@bbn.COM> dredick@vax.bbn.com.UUCP (The Druid) writes:
- ...(question about public domain FORTH for mac).
-
- Mountain View Press has one, but the version I saw was very buggy and
- wasn't nearly as good as MacForth or (particularly) Mach2. Mach2
- supports ALL ROM routines by using CALL or (CALL), which makes
- translating Pascal listings to Forth code relatively easy. See Dec Mac
- Tutor for Mach2 listing for creating HyperCard XCMD. (Only a satisfied
- customer).
- --
- Nicholas Spies ns@cat.cmu.edu.arpa
- Center for Design
- of Educational Computing
- Carnegie Mellon University
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: edmoy@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;YF37)
- Subject: Re: Mac <--> UNIX file sharing needed
- Date: 28 Jan 88 19:25:37 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
-
- In article <2578@encore.UUCP> adamm@encore.UUCP (Adam S. Moskowitz)
- writes:
- >We have a couple of UNIX machines and some Mac's on our ethernet. Most
- >people use one or the other, but some people would like to share files
- >between the Mac's and the UNIX systems. Specfically, they'd like to use the
- >editors/formatters on the Mac, but still have the files available to people
- >on the UNIX systems who prefer to use vi or emacs or whatever. I know that
- >there are systems around that will let the UNIX systems act as a file server
- >for the MAC's, but I don't think they address the problem of file format
- >compatability. Is there a package that will let us do this sort of thing?
-
- At Berkeley, we have been testing the CAP code from Columbia that allows
- a Unix machine to act as an AppleShare server. When we first got it
- running, I was amazed the first time I used the SigmaEdit DA to edit my
- .login file on Unix!
-
- AUFS (AppleTalk to Unix File Server), the part of CAP that does this,
- displays subdirectories as folders as you'd expect in a Finder window.
- The folders can be of two types, Unix folders and Mac folders. All
- files in a Unix folder is treated as a text file, with automatic
- conversion of line termination characters (CR <-> LF). In a Mac folder,
- files are treated like they are on a Mac, with separate resource and
- data forks and no conversion, unless the file is a Unix text file.
-
- You will need a Kinetic FastPath box and the KIP code from Stanford to
- complete the package. The best part is that all this code is free and
- available via anonymous ftp from sumex-aim.stanford.edu (cd to
- <info-mac>).
-
- Also included in CAP is the ability print from from a Mac or from Unix
- to either a Unix-connected LaserWriter or an AppleTalk-connected
- LaserWriter, using the Unix lpr spooling system.
-
- I'll post a more complete report when have completed a full-blown
- installation test.
- --
- Edward Moy
- Workstation Software Support Group
- University of California
- Berkeley, CA 94720
-
- edmoy@violet.Berkeley.EDU
- ucbvax!violet!edmoy
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Robert Joseph Hammen)
- Subject: Re: of mice and macs
- Date: 28 Jan 88 22:56:39 GMT
- Organization: Computer Applications
-
- Another solution would be to get Olduvai's ADBridge, which lets you
- connect ADB peripherals to old Macs and old peripherals to ADB Macs. I
- don't recall the price of the bridge, but I think it's around $129 list.
- If anyone out there has one, I'd like to hear their experiences with it
- (I can just see using an Extended Keyboard on a Mac Plus...)
- --
- =========================================================================
- Robert Hammen Computer Applications hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu
- Delphi: HAMMEN GEnie: R.Hammen CI$: 70701,2104
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: buzz@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mahboud Zabetian)
- Subject: Anyone know how to make A/UX recognize tape drive?
- Date: 28 Jan 88 22:45:40 GMT
- Organization: Advanced Technology, Princeton University
-
-
- I want to backup the filesystem of our A/UX onto the apple tape drive.
-
- The tape drive is connected to the Mac II, but I don't seem to be able
- to access it.
-
- Any UNIX people out tthere know how to mount it? Thank you.
- --
- Mahboud Zabetian buzz@phoenix.princeton.edu
- 183 Little Hall (609) 520-1271
- Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544 (609) 734-7760
- ****** Anyone need a soon-to-graduate hardware/software engineer? ********
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: mms@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (John J. Chew III)
- Subject: here's a MacLanding enter key patch
- Date: 28 Jan 88 06:59:51 GMT
- Organization: The Poslfit Committee
-
-
- In response to questions by Evan Bauman, Ken Hancock and others...
-
- MacLanding (a Defender-like shareware game for the Mac) uses calls to
- GetKeyMap() to read key codes "directly" so that you can (for example)
- fire, move and bomb simultaneously. The key to detonate a smart bomb
- has key code 03, which is the enter key on an old Mac keyboard and
- nothing on any keyboard since the Mac+. Soooo... to patch this, run the
- game with a debugger trapping for calls to GetKeyMap(), trace manually
- from there and look for things that look like entries in a key map being
- masked and tested.
-
- Well, actually, you don't have to. I did it this afternoon. Using
- FEdit, search for the hex string 0010 6758. There should only be one.
- The 0010 is used to mask the Enter key's entry in the key map. Changing
- it to 0008 will make Backspace (Delete) the smart bomb key, which seems
- more appropriate anyway.
-
- Hope this is of help.
-
- john chew
- --
- john j. chew (v3.0) poslfit@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu
- +1 416 463 5403 (300/1200 bps) poslfit@utorgpu.bitnet
- {cbosgd,decvax,mnetor,utai,utcsri,{allegra,linus}!utzoo}!utgpu!poslfit
- "There are brains in the woods and the anarchist has bombed the bridge."
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: takahash@bnrmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
- Subject: Excel vs Font/DA Juggler
- Date: 28 Jan 88 21:45:20 GMT
- Organization: Bell Northern Research, Mtn. View, CA
-
- Try this trick:
- Install Font/DA Juggler Plus (not version 2.0) on your hard disk.
- Reboot your system.
-
- Start up Microsoft Excel v1.04
- When the untitled spreadsheet comes up, enter two columns of 10
- numbers
- Go to the File menu and select New...
- Select type "Chart" and click OK
- After the chart comes up, go to ANY menu item and click on it
-
- *CRASH* [ID=02]
-
- So much for the trick. The gist of this is that Microsoft Excel will
- crash doing a relatively simple thing. If I were to remove Font/DA
- Juggler Plus, Excel will run OK. My system configuration was: System
- 4.2 with Finder 6.0. System 4.1 with Finder 5.5 does the same thing.
-
- Now, I already know that Excel has some problems with Multifinder. On
- the other hand, Font/DA Juggler Plus is a relatively new product (I got
- mine at the MacWorld Expo).
-
- Anyone else having problems or any ideas?
- --
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Alan Takahashi ! hplabs amdahl
- Bell-Northern Research ! \ /
- Mountain View, CA ! .....!{-----}!bnrmtv!takahashi
- ! / \
- "When you need to knock on wood is when ! 3comvax ames
- you realize the world's composed of !-----------------------------------
- aluminum and vinyl." -- Flugg's Law ! DISCLAIMER: It's all an illusion.
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: dwb@apple.UUCP (David W. Berry)
- Subject: Re: tcsh in AUX
- Date: 28 Jan 88 23:30:55 GMT
- Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA
-
- Just to settle the rumours floating around, and perhaps limit the
- number of requests for various shells, the supported and provided shells
- under A/UX are Bourne Shell (sh), Korn Shell (ksh), and C-Shell (csh).
- The Tenex C-Shell is not supported by apple, but various folks at
- various places have ported it.
- --
- David W. Berry
- dwb@well.uucp dwb@Delphi
- dwb@apple.com 973-5168@408.MaBell
- Disclaimer: Apple doesn't even know I have an opinion and certainly
- wouldn't want if they did.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: isle@eleazar.Dartmouth.EDU (Ken Hancock)
- Subject: Re: Suitcase versus Font/DA Juggler
- Date: 28 Jan 88 05:10:23 GMT
- Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
-
- After using both, I would have to agree. I switched over to Font/DA
- Juggler Plus. The font list is one of the nicest features -- gives you
- a list on the screen of each font -USING THE FONT-. Don't know which
- font to choose? It'll show you what each looks like. The Beep sounds is
- very nice also -- I'd recommend getting the Sound->Snd converter from
- INFO-MAC archives. Works with QuicKeys and everything else, allows you
- to insert a cmd-key equivalent for opening up F/DA Juggler.
-
- Ken
-
- Disclaimer: I beta-tested for Font/DA Juggler v2.0. Back then I would
- have
- gone with Suitcase. Not anymore...
-
-
- --
- Ken Hancock UUCP: isle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu
- BITNET: isle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu
-
- DISCLAIMER: If people weren't so sue-happy, I wouldn't need one!
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: borscht@eleazar.Dartmouth.EDU (Andy J. Williams)
- Subject: Appletalk Conference/BBS program sources
- Date: 28 Jan 88 15:46:37 GMT
- Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
-
- I am writing a Macintosh BBS program to work accross a multi-node
- environment which will use a central mailframe as it's file server. Does
- anyone know of any sources for a conference program or bbs program which
- are PD? I would be very interested in seeing how others have done this.
- Even if the programs work in only one node too.
-
- Thanks in advance...
-
- --
- Disclaimer: You better like my opinions, my mother can beat up your mother...
-
- Andy J. Williams BITNET: borscht@eleazar.dartmouth.edu
- Bill 'n Opus in '88! UUCP:{ihnp4,decvax,linus}!dartvax!eleazar!borscht
-
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